1 00:00:22,979 --> 00:00:24,502 Help! 2 00:00:24,546 --> 00:00:25,590 Help!! 3 00:00:42,172 --> 00:00:43,826 Hi. I'm Maxine, and I'm an addict. 4 00:00:45,175 --> 00:00:48,352 I haven't taken a pill in 19 months and 5 days. 5 00:00:51,007 --> 00:00:55,098 But, um-- but this... 6 00:00:55,142 --> 00:00:57,709 These past six days have been really rough. 7 00:01:00,277 --> 00:01:03,019 Someone died at work, and, uh... 8 00:01:05,413 --> 00:01:09,895 I just have to remember that this, too, shall pass. 9 00:01:13,464 --> 00:01:14,726 Thanks for coming. 10 00:01:14,770 --> 00:01:16,815 You use that line on Naomi last night? 11 00:01:16,859 --> 00:01:18,556 You figured that out fast. 12 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,733 I spotted you two playing tonsil hockey in your office. 13 00:01:21,777 --> 00:01:23,170 Is she as good as I remember? 14 00:01:24,127 --> 00:01:25,476 As a lawyer, of course. 15 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,913 New case for you-- Leo Scarlata. 16 00:01:27,957 --> 00:01:30,046 15 years into a life sentence 17 00:01:30,090 --> 00:01:32,135 for torching his family's restaurant. 18 00:01:32,179 --> 00:01:34,355 The fire killed one man, injured another. 19 00:01:34,398 --> 00:01:35,747 Arson-- Frankie will enjoy that. 20 00:01:35,791 --> 00:01:38,489 I don't see how it warrants special delivery. 21 00:01:38,533 --> 00:01:40,404 Defense wanted to argue diminished capacity, 22 00:01:40,448 --> 00:01:41,579 and the judge didn't allow it, 23 00:01:41,623 --> 00:01:43,668 despite Leo's IQ being only 73. 24 00:01:43,712 --> 00:01:45,235 A significant cognitive impairment. 25 00:01:45,279 --> 00:01:46,323 That, it is. 26 00:01:46,367 --> 00:01:47,498 That's exactly the kind of defendant 27 00:01:47,542 --> 00:01:48,673 that gets bulldozed by the system. 28 00:01:48,717 --> 00:01:50,240 - Right again. - Facts about the case? 29 00:01:50,284 --> 00:01:51,589 Solid, but not rocksolid. 30 00:01:51,633 --> 00:01:53,156 Well, send the files to my office. 31 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,679 Just one more thing. 32 00:01:54,723 --> 00:01:56,507 Meet Paul Slatkin. 33 00:01:56,551 --> 00:01:59,162 He's making a documentary about Leo's incarceration. 34 00:01:59,206 --> 00:02:01,643 And, hopefully, exoneration. It's a pleasure meeting you. 35 00:02:02,644 --> 00:02:04,733 This is my cameraman-- Simon. 36 00:02:04,776 --> 00:02:06,517 They'll be filming your investigation. 37 00:02:06,561 --> 00:02:07,953 I am not spending five days 38 00:02:07,997 --> 00:02:09,694 with these gadflies following my every move. 39 00:02:09,738 --> 00:02:11,218 You willif you want to work the case. 40 00:02:11,261 --> 00:02:12,349 I can help. 41 00:02:12,393 --> 00:02:14,046 I've been filming Leo and his family 42 00:02:14,090 --> 00:02:15,439 for the past two years. 43 00:02:15,483 --> 00:02:18,050 I've interviewed him, his attorneys, family members. 44 00:02:18,094 --> 00:02:19,530 I can give you access to all of them. 45 00:02:19,574 --> 00:02:21,706 Great! Then you can stay the hell away from Leo and me. 46 00:02:21,750 --> 00:02:24,013 This will be great publicity for the CIU. 47 00:02:24,056 --> 00:02:25,188 Do you have the release? 48 00:02:25,232 --> 00:02:26,537 After the Dan Harris interview meltdown, 49 00:02:26,581 --> 00:02:27,756 why would you even risk this? 50 00:02:27,799 --> 00:02:29,366 This time, the only ass truly on the line 51 00:02:29,410 --> 00:02:30,367 is Leo Scarlata's. 52 00:02:30,411 --> 00:02:31,934 Even at your most self-sabotaging, 53 00:02:31,977 --> 00:02:33,501 you'd never hurt someone like him. 54 00:02:38,593 --> 00:02:41,465 You are so calculating and manipulative and-- 55 00:02:41,509 --> 00:02:42,466 Right? 56 00:02:42,510 --> 00:02:43,467 That too. 57 00:02:43,511 --> 00:02:46,557 - Captions by VITAC-- 58 00:02:52,215 --> 00:02:53,738 They're gonna be here all week? 59 00:02:53,782 --> 00:02:55,914 You better get your roots done. 60 00:02:55,958 --> 00:02:58,003 You look like a Ken Doll with stubble. 61 00:02:58,047 --> 00:02:59,309 Get to it, already. 62 00:02:59,353 --> 00:03:01,137 Um, the prosecution argued 63 00:03:01,181 --> 00:03:03,748 that Leo snuck into the restaurant at 3:00 A.M., 64 00:03:03,792 --> 00:03:05,533 lit a rag, threw it in the deep fryer, 65 00:03:05,576 --> 00:03:07,187 - and walked away. - Motive? 66 00:03:07,230 --> 00:03:08,840 Revenge. Leo was angry at his two-- 67 00:03:09,537 --> 00:03:12,192 ...brothers for demoting him to the kitchen, 68 00:03:12,235 --> 00:03:14,194 for accidentally spilling hot tea on a customer. 69 00:03:14,237 --> 00:03:16,065 Can you, uh, close that? 70 00:03:16,108 --> 00:03:17,501 The-- The glare is kind of-- 71 00:03:17,545 --> 00:03:19,329 Blinding? Who knew? 72 00:03:19,373 --> 00:03:21,026 Fatality and the injured man-- 73 00:03:21,070 --> 00:03:22,550 either of them connected to Leo? 74 00:03:22,593 --> 00:03:24,856 Errol Jordan was a homeless man who had the bad luck 75 00:03:24,900 --> 00:03:27,772 of sneaking into the basement and fell asleep. 76 00:03:27,816 --> 00:03:30,210 Karl Wimer was passing by, ran in to save Jordan, 77 00:03:30,253 --> 00:03:31,167 and got severely burned. 78 00:03:31,211 --> 00:03:32,429 Talk to me about the defense. 79 00:03:32,473 --> 00:03:34,518 They argued Leo grew up in the restaurant. 80 00:03:34,562 --> 00:03:35,824 His parents started it, 81 00:03:35,867 --> 00:03:38,218 raised him and his brothers there. 82 00:03:38,261 --> 00:03:40,132 The three boys were inseparable their whole lives. 83 00:03:40,176 --> 00:03:42,134 That didn't change 'cause of a bunch of spilled tea. 84 00:03:42,178 --> 00:03:43,397 Anthony, the youngest brother, 85 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:44,920 shared an apartment with Leo. 86 00:03:44,963 --> 00:03:48,184 He testified Leo was asleep when the fire started. 87 00:03:48,228 --> 00:03:49,751 Unfortunately, when your alibi's provided 88 00:03:49,794 --> 00:03:51,274 by an adoring brother... 89 00:03:51,318 --> 00:03:53,189 You haveno alibi. 90 00:03:53,233 --> 00:03:54,712 I'm sorry. Was I blocking the board the whole time? 91 00:03:54,756 --> 00:03:55,844 You want me to start again? 92 00:03:55,887 --> 00:03:57,019 That'd be great. Thanks. 93 00:03:57,062 --> 00:03:58,412 Also, the judge tied the defense's hands 94 00:03:58,455 --> 00:04:01,545 by refusing to let them argue diminished capacity. 95 00:04:01,589 --> 00:04:03,591 Can you explain to us the meaning of that term? 96 00:04:03,634 --> 00:04:05,549 Weknow what it means, youknow what it means. Why explain it? 97 00:04:05,593 --> 00:04:06,811 For the audience. 98 00:04:06,855 --> 00:04:08,726 In criminal law, "diminished capacity" means 99 00:04:08,770 --> 00:04:10,641 the accused is incapable of formulating 100 00:04:10,685 --> 00:04:12,426 the specific intent to commit the crime. 101 00:04:12,469 --> 00:04:14,906 So that's a different argument than actual innocence? 102 00:04:14,950 --> 00:04:17,909 Yes. It would've reduced Leo's sentence substantially. 103 00:04:17,953 --> 00:04:20,521 Ladies and gentlemen, this is what we call "unnecessary exposition." 104 00:04:20,564 --> 00:04:21,652 I'll investigate the fire. 105 00:04:21,696 --> 00:04:23,219 Could be an accident instead of arson. 106 00:04:23,263 --> 00:04:24,786 Take Maxine with you. 107 00:04:24,829 --> 00:04:27,571 Sam, talk to the judge about her, uh, ruling on capacity. 108 00:04:27,615 --> 00:04:30,574 Tess, get all the parasite's interview transcripts 109 00:04:30,618 --> 00:04:31,575 from the case. 110 00:04:31,619 --> 00:04:32,837 I'll go talk to Leo. 111 00:04:32,881 --> 00:04:33,969 Y-You're going in four different directions. 112 00:04:34,012 --> 00:04:35,231 I've only got one cameraman. 113 00:04:35,275 --> 00:04:37,277 I've only got five days. You're on your own. 114 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,061 Let's go. 115 00:04:39,104 --> 00:04:40,236 Thank you so much. 116 00:04:46,416 --> 00:04:48,636 So, when would you like to do your one-on-one interview? 117 00:04:48,679 --> 00:04:49,680 Never. 118 00:04:49,724 --> 00:04:51,291 It'll only be five minutes, tops. 119 00:04:51,334 --> 00:04:56,296 You get to film CIU's investigation-- period. 120 00:04:56,339 --> 00:04:58,167 Didn't realize you were so traumatized by it. 121 00:04:58,210 --> 00:04:59,168 By what? 122 00:04:59,211 --> 00:05:00,300 Growing up in the White House, 123 00:05:00,343 --> 00:05:01,431 all the cameras around all the time. 124 00:05:01,475 --> 00:05:02,780 Eh... 125 00:05:02,824 --> 00:05:07,437 What bothers me is how my team acts around you. 126 00:05:07,481 --> 00:05:09,526 That and your delusion. 127 00:05:09,570 --> 00:05:11,398 Delusion? In what way? 128 00:05:11,441 --> 00:05:14,183 You think you're helping Leo, as opposed to exploiting him. 129 00:05:14,226 --> 00:05:17,621 This is an important story that needs to be told, 130 00:05:17,665 --> 00:05:19,623 and I've been working on it for the past two years 131 00:05:19,667 --> 00:05:20,929 without seeing a dime. 132 00:05:20,972 --> 00:05:23,975 But you intend to-- eventually-- see a dime. 133 00:05:24,019 --> 00:05:25,673 Hopefully, a whole lot of dimes. 134 00:05:25,716 --> 00:05:28,371 Would I like this to be the next "Making a Murderer"? Sure. 135 00:05:28,415 --> 00:05:29,503 That doesn't mean I don't care. 136 00:05:29,546 --> 00:05:31,592 No, just that your caring is... 137 00:05:31,635 --> 00:05:34,377 financially motivated-- ergo, exploitation. 138 00:05:34,421 --> 00:05:36,292 I can't win with you, can I? 139 00:05:36,336 --> 00:05:39,251 Feel free to stop playing the game. 140 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,517 Where do you think you're headed? 141 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:44,605 With you, to the prison. 142 00:05:44,648 --> 00:05:46,998 They're not gonna let you in. 143 00:05:47,042 --> 00:05:48,783 We have clearance to film there. 144 00:05:48,826 --> 00:05:52,613 I think someone might have called and gotten that revoked. 145 00:05:53,570 --> 00:05:54,789 Bye. 146 00:05:58,532 --> 00:05:59,924 - I'm Vince. - Hayes. 147 00:05:59,968 --> 00:06:01,361 My wife-- Rita. 148 00:06:01,404 --> 00:06:03,188 Thanks so much for looking into my brother's case. 149 00:06:03,232 --> 00:06:04,451 It means a lot to us. 150 00:06:06,409 --> 00:06:08,455 Hi. I'm Hayes. 151 00:06:08,498 --> 00:06:09,847 Unh. 152 00:06:09,891 --> 00:06:11,240 What happened to your pants, Leo? 153 00:06:11,283 --> 00:06:13,329 Clearly, some animals here stole them. 154 00:06:13,373 --> 00:06:14,504 I need to hear it from him. Leo? 155 00:06:14,548 --> 00:06:15,810 The guard's bringing another pair. 156 00:06:15,853 --> 00:06:17,377 I-I-I don't want to get anyone in trouble. 157 00:06:23,295 --> 00:06:24,514 It's okay. 158 00:06:26,516 --> 00:06:27,691 You can tell me. 159 00:06:27,735 --> 00:06:28,953 The other guys got angry 160 00:06:28,997 --> 00:06:30,215 'cause I wanted to sleep with a night light. 161 00:06:30,259 --> 00:06:32,348 - I don't like the dark. - Me neither. 162 00:06:32,392 --> 00:06:34,742 I slept with the bathroom light on until I was 15. 163 00:06:34,785 --> 00:06:35,873 Really? 164 00:06:35,917 --> 00:06:37,266 Mm-hmm. 165 00:06:40,574 --> 00:06:43,315 I need to ask you some questions about the fire. Is that okay? 166 00:06:43,359 --> 00:06:45,143 I didn't do it. I didn't have matches or anything. 167 00:06:45,187 --> 00:06:46,841 I know, but the fire started 168 00:06:46,884 --> 00:06:48,886 because someone lit something and threw it in the deep fryer. 169 00:06:48,930 --> 00:06:51,193 I would never do that. Fire's dangerous. 170 00:06:51,236 --> 00:06:52,586 Well, maybe you made a mistake? 171 00:06:52,629 --> 00:06:54,414 No. I always follow the rules. 172 00:06:54,457 --> 00:06:57,852 Vince and Anthony and me, we grew up in that restaurant. 173 00:06:57,895 --> 00:06:58,983 It's our home. 174 00:06:59,027 --> 00:07:00,376 Anthony-- that's your other brother? 175 00:07:00,420 --> 00:07:02,857 Uh-huh. I have two brothers and my cat-- Meatball. 176 00:07:02,900 --> 00:07:04,293 And does Anthony come and visit you, too? 177 00:07:04,336 --> 00:07:07,383 Yes. But not with Vince and Rita. 178 00:07:07,427 --> 00:07:09,603 They don't really talk anymore. 179 00:07:09,646 --> 00:07:11,518 He's just a little too busy counting his money. 180 00:07:14,782 --> 00:07:17,959 You... want an MandM? 181 00:07:25,183 --> 00:07:27,142 Thank you. 182 00:07:33,365 --> 00:07:35,498 Judge Hinds? Hey, do you have a minute? 183 00:07:35,542 --> 00:07:38,283 This is mytime, Mr. Spencer. I got to get my 10,000 steps. 184 00:07:38,327 --> 00:07:39,546 I'll keep up. 185 00:07:39,589 --> 00:07:41,112 Leo Scarlata-- we're reviewing his case. 186 00:07:41,156 --> 00:07:42,374 He's got an IQ of 73, 187 00:07:42,418 --> 00:07:43,724 which is on the lower end of the spectrum. 188 00:07:43,767 --> 00:07:45,943 Not low enough to qualify for diminished capacity. 189 00:07:45,987 --> 00:07:47,423 IQ tests are notoriously subjective. 190 00:07:47,467 --> 00:07:49,294 Another tester might have given him a lower score. 191 00:07:49,338 --> 00:07:50,513 Or higher. 192 00:07:50,557 --> 00:07:51,949 I can appreciate what you're trying to do, 193 00:07:51,993 --> 00:07:54,604 but regardless of his IQ, Mr. Scarlata's where he belongs. 194 00:07:54,648 --> 00:07:56,911 He's getting beaten up on a regular basis in Sing Sing. 195 00:07:56,954 --> 00:07:58,129 I'm sorry to hear that. 196 00:07:58,173 --> 00:07:59,783 Individuals like Mr. Scarlata 197 00:07:59,827 --> 00:08:02,351 don't belong in a psych facility oron the street. 198 00:08:02,394 --> 00:08:04,266 But need I remind you, a man died. 199 00:08:04,309 --> 00:08:05,485 He doesn't belong in prison. 200 00:08:05,528 --> 00:08:07,617 The law doesn't agree with you, Mr. Spencer. 201 00:08:07,661 --> 00:08:09,532 Have a nice day. 202 00:08:13,275 --> 00:08:15,451 Between the fire and the firemen putting it out, 203 00:08:15,495 --> 00:08:16,887 the place was totaled. 204 00:08:16,931 --> 00:08:18,933 40 years, my parents kept this place going, 205 00:08:18,976 --> 00:08:20,630 and overnight, we're out of business. 206 00:08:20,674 --> 00:08:21,979 That must have been devastating. 207 00:08:22,023 --> 00:08:22,980 It destroyed my family. 208 00:08:23,024 --> 00:08:24,329 I mean, Leo went to prison, 209 00:08:24,373 --> 00:08:26,157 Vince walked away from the business. 210 00:08:26,201 --> 00:08:29,378 I mean, I went from spending every waking hour with my brothers 211 00:08:29,421 --> 00:08:30,814 to hardly ever seeing them. 212 00:08:30,858 --> 00:08:32,512 Looks a lot like the old place. 213 00:08:32,555 --> 00:08:34,818 I kept the layout the same as when my mom ran the kitchen, 214 00:08:34,862 --> 00:08:36,951 so now when I come in in the morning, 215 00:08:36,994 --> 00:08:38,561 it's like I'm a kid again. 216 00:08:38,605 --> 00:08:40,128 Yeah. 217 00:08:40,171 --> 00:08:42,347 Well, the fire investigator followed a protocol-- 218 00:08:42,391 --> 00:08:47,527 went from the least-burned areas to here, the most damaged. 219 00:08:48,397 --> 00:08:50,530 He thought this "V" pattern on the wall 220 00:08:50,573 --> 00:08:52,140 indicated a high-speed burn. 221 00:08:52,183 --> 00:08:53,620 That's why he ruled arson. 222 00:08:53,663 --> 00:08:56,187 And he decided the deep fryer was the point of origin. 223 00:08:56,231 --> 00:08:58,538 So, how did the fire get from here to the deep fryer? 224 00:09:01,062 --> 00:09:03,978 Max, can you turn that fan on for me, please? 225 00:09:13,378 --> 00:09:15,206 Doesn't seem that the flame could ever travel that far. 226 00:09:15,250 --> 00:09:17,034 - No. - What does that mean? 227 00:09:17,078 --> 00:09:19,515 The fire was deliberate. This was arson. 228 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,822 It doesn't mean that Leo started it. 229 00:09:21,865 --> 00:09:23,388 Yeah, well, whoever did... 230 00:09:23,432 --> 00:09:26,435 used something to ignite the blaze, 231 00:09:26,478 --> 00:09:28,089 like a, uh... 232 00:09:28,132 --> 00:09:29,786 like a kitchen rag. 233 00:09:33,747 --> 00:09:35,879 And then he threw it into the deep fryer. 234 00:09:38,578 --> 00:09:41,232 Grease fires get smoky very fast. 235 00:09:41,276 --> 00:09:44,496 The victim, Mr. Jordan, would've woken up in the smoky basement, 236 00:09:44,540 --> 00:09:46,411 while upstairs, plumes of hot air and gas 237 00:09:46,455 --> 00:09:47,848 were being built up. 238 00:09:47,891 --> 00:09:48,979 The door was locked. 239 00:09:49,023 --> 00:09:49,937 Mr. Jordan would've screamed for help. 240 00:09:49,980 --> 00:09:51,025 Our Good Samaritan, Karl, 241 00:09:51,068 --> 00:09:53,418 heard the screams outside, ran in. 242 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:00,730 The door to the basement was locked. 243 00:10:02,340 --> 00:10:03,907 He tried to break it down but couldn't. 244 00:10:05,866 --> 00:10:08,216 At that point, the fire reached flashover. 245 00:10:08,259 --> 00:10:10,697 It became so intense, Karl had to give up, 246 00:10:10,740 --> 00:10:13,264 but when he tried to get out, he got lost in the smoke, 247 00:10:13,308 --> 00:10:15,571 finally collapsing near here, 248 00:10:15,615 --> 00:10:18,052 the site of another low burn. 249 00:10:21,316 --> 00:10:23,318 These bins-- What was in them? 250 00:10:23,361 --> 00:10:26,451 Recycling-- cans, bottles, used cooking oil. 251 00:10:26,495 --> 00:10:28,279 They used to be plastic instead of metal. 252 00:10:28,323 --> 00:10:30,586 Oh. 253 00:10:30,630 --> 00:10:32,153 You had a hood like this back then, right? 254 00:10:32,196 --> 00:10:35,243 Yeah. It was regulation back in 2001-- same as today. 255 00:10:35,286 --> 00:10:37,288 If the fire started at the deep fryer, 256 00:10:37,332 --> 00:10:39,116 a hood like this would've slowed it way down, 257 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:40,640 maybe even put it out. 258 00:10:40,683 --> 00:10:42,467 What if the fire started somewhere else? 259 00:10:42,511 --> 00:10:44,165 Like in a barrel of used cooking oil. 260 00:10:48,256 --> 00:10:52,129 Fire went up the wall, across the ceiling, 261 00:10:52,173 --> 00:10:53,696 through the vent hood, 262 00:10:53,740 --> 00:10:56,656 flames shot out above the deep fryer. 263 00:10:56,699 --> 00:10:59,659 No hood extinguisher could've stopped that. 264 00:10:59,702 --> 00:11:03,097 Maybe the fire started right here-- the oil bins. 265 00:11:03,140 --> 00:11:04,751 As opposed to the deep fryer. 266 00:11:04,794 --> 00:11:06,100 Yeah. 267 00:11:06,143 --> 00:11:08,145 Thisis where they found Karl. 268 00:11:08,189 --> 00:11:11,061 Maybe Karl didn't try to save anyone, 269 00:11:11,105 --> 00:11:12,846 because he's the one that set the fire. 270 00:11:14,412 --> 00:11:16,327 Maybe he stayed to watch his creation burn 271 00:11:16,371 --> 00:11:17,764 until it caught up with him. 272 00:11:29,210 --> 00:11:31,168 So, Leo's not off the hook, but-- 273 00:11:31,212 --> 00:11:34,868 But our Good Samaritan sure looks like a good suspect. 274 00:11:48,229 --> 00:11:51,841 You think Karl got trapped and burned by a fire hestarted? 275 00:11:51,885 --> 00:11:53,016 Happens all the time. 276 00:11:53,060 --> 00:11:54,583 Hey, where's Sam and Tess? 277 00:11:54,626 --> 00:11:56,367 Still reviewing the transcripts from Paul's interviews. 278 00:11:56,411 --> 00:11:58,369 So far, they haven't found anything not in the court record. 279 00:11:58,413 --> 00:12:00,720 They seem bored out of their minds. 280 00:12:01,808 --> 00:12:04,071 Uh, Maxine, can you tilt the screen? 281 00:12:04,114 --> 00:12:05,855 I'm getting a-- 282 00:12:07,248 --> 00:12:08,162 Oops. 283 00:12:08,205 --> 00:12:09,337 I can either film this later-- 284 00:12:10,512 --> 00:12:13,080 Apologies. So juvenile. 285 00:12:13,123 --> 00:12:15,038 Frankie, go on. 286 00:12:15,082 --> 00:12:16,213 Karl's a solid suspect. 287 00:12:16,257 --> 00:12:17,258 You know, arsonists get off 288 00:12:17,301 --> 00:12:18,433 on being close to the flames... 289 00:12:18,476 --> 00:12:20,043 ...feeling the power. 290 00:12:21,131 --> 00:12:22,263 What are you doing? 291 00:12:22,306 --> 00:12:23,568 Just feeling the... 292 00:12:23,612 --> 00:12:24,700 ...power. 293 00:12:24,744 --> 00:12:26,441 I'm sorry. 294 00:12:26,484 --> 00:12:28,182 Actually, I'm notsorry. This is fun. You want to try? 295 00:12:28,225 --> 00:12:29,183 All right. 296 00:12:29,226 --> 00:12:30,401 I get it. 297 00:12:30,445 --> 00:12:31,794 Forget it. 298 00:12:31,838 --> 00:12:33,230 You... are...a... 299 00:12:39,715 --> 00:12:41,064 What was Karl's motive? 300 00:12:41,108 --> 00:12:43,414 He has no record for arson orvandalism. 301 00:12:43,458 --> 00:12:44,633 He doesn't have a criminalrecord, 302 00:12:44,676 --> 00:12:46,766 but he does have a herorecord. 303 00:12:46,809 --> 00:12:49,072 A month before the Scarlata fire, 304 00:12:49,116 --> 00:12:50,595 Karl pulled a 12-year-old girl 305 00:12:50,639 --> 00:12:52,249 out of heavy surf at Jones Beach. 306 00:12:52,293 --> 00:12:54,208 And before that, he saved his neighbor 307 00:12:54,251 --> 00:12:55,557 by administering CPR. 308 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:56,558 Could be coincidence. 309 00:12:56,601 --> 00:12:57,864 Three times in less than a year? 310 00:12:57,907 --> 00:12:59,779 Either Karl is Batman... 311 00:12:59,822 --> 00:13:01,041 Or there's no such thing as a hero. 312 00:13:01,084 --> 00:13:02,216 Mm. 313 00:13:06,481 --> 00:13:07,830 How do you like working in CIU? 314 00:13:07,874 --> 00:13:09,789 It's great-- very rewarding. 315 00:13:09,832 --> 00:13:11,878 What about working for Hayes Morrison? 316 00:13:11,921 --> 00:13:12,922 More of the same. 317 00:13:12,966 --> 00:13:14,619 Sounds a bit canned, 318 00:13:14,663 --> 00:13:16,970 especially since, uh, she stole your job. 319 00:13:17,013 --> 00:13:18,623 It's ancient history. 320 00:13:18,667 --> 00:13:21,278 All right, let's, uh, move on to more recent history. 321 00:13:21,322 --> 00:13:24,194 Your last case-- things ended rather tragically. 322 00:13:24,238 --> 00:13:26,196 You're talking about George Stayner's suicide? 323 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:27,023 Yes. 324 00:13:27,067 --> 00:13:28,198 Is that really relevant? 325 00:13:28,242 --> 00:13:29,373 I want the audience to understand 326 00:13:29,417 --> 00:13:30,940 the stakes for you at this job. 327 00:13:30,984 --> 00:13:32,724 Sometimes, it's literally life or death. 328 00:13:32,768 --> 00:13:35,162 Has anything like that ever happened to you before? 329 00:13:37,555 --> 00:13:38,818 I've been to a lot of crime scenes, 330 00:13:38,861 --> 00:13:41,559 I've seen bodies, but... 331 00:13:41,603 --> 00:13:44,040 actually seeing it happen... 332 00:13:44,084 --> 00:13:45,302 Do you think there's anything 333 00:13:45,346 --> 00:13:46,564 you could've done differently? 334 00:13:46,608 --> 00:13:47,565 Not me, no. 335 00:13:47,609 --> 00:13:49,219 You were with Maxine, right? 336 00:13:49,263 --> 00:13:50,525 Yeah. There's nothing shecould've done, either. 337 00:13:50,568 --> 00:13:51,787 I mean, the guy was going to prison, 338 00:13:51,831 --> 00:13:53,310 he knew he couldn't handle it. 339 00:13:53,354 --> 00:13:55,138 Do you think she could have tried harder to talk him down? 340 00:13:56,487 --> 00:13:58,663 Maxine tends to attack every problem head-on, 341 00:13:58,707 --> 00:14:01,536 which usually works for her, but, you know... 342 00:14:01,579 --> 00:14:04,974 So, you think if she had been a more-skilled negotiator, 343 00:14:05,018 --> 00:14:06,280 the man might still be alive? 344 00:14:08,238 --> 00:14:10,588 That's not what I said. 345 00:14:10,632 --> 00:14:11,763 You know what? Let's, uh-- 346 00:14:11,807 --> 00:14:13,853 Let's back up, delete it, start again. 347 00:14:13,896 --> 00:14:16,246 No. No, no. This is great stuff. 348 00:14:16,290 --> 00:14:19,336 I-I'm really interested in your take on Leo's case. 349 00:14:19,380 --> 00:14:21,208 Unless, of course, you-- you want me 350 00:14:21,251 --> 00:14:23,688 to stop the interview? 351 00:14:23,732 --> 00:14:25,081 No. 352 00:14:27,083 --> 00:14:28,563 You actually think I'd risk my life 353 00:14:28,606 --> 00:14:30,434 just to get my picture in the Daily News? 354 00:14:30,478 --> 00:14:32,175 You didn't plan on risking your life. 355 00:14:32,219 --> 00:14:33,698 Fire spread quick. You got trapped. 356 00:14:33,742 --> 00:14:35,744 I got trapped because I ran into a burning building 357 00:14:35,787 --> 00:14:37,267 when I heard someone screaming. 358 00:14:37,311 --> 00:14:39,791 A building you happened to be walking by at 3:00 A.M.? 359 00:14:39,835 --> 00:14:41,619 I was in a band, our gigs would run late. 360 00:14:41,663 --> 00:14:43,578 I-- I'd be too amped up to sleep, 361 00:14:43,621 --> 00:14:45,536 so I'd go for these long walks to wind down. 362 00:14:45,580 --> 00:14:46,886 Yeah, publicity you got playing hero 363 00:14:46,929 --> 00:14:48,365 must have been good for your band, huh? 364 00:14:48,409 --> 00:14:52,543 Hey, what I got from "playing the hero" 365 00:14:52,587 --> 00:14:53,849 was six months in a burn unit, 366 00:14:53,893 --> 00:14:55,807 having my wounds debrided with an iron brush. 367 00:15:00,595 --> 00:15:06,470 I-I-I get that you believe Leo doesn't belong in prison, 368 00:15:06,514 --> 00:15:08,951 but trust me-- he definitely started that fire. 369 00:15:08,995 --> 00:15:10,910 If you weren't there until after the fire started burning, 370 00:15:10,953 --> 00:15:11,911 how could you know? 371 00:15:11,954 --> 00:15:13,303 Because he told me. 372 00:15:13,347 --> 00:15:15,871 H-He wrote me letters when I was in the hospital-- 373 00:15:15,915 --> 00:15:17,655 said he was sorry. 374 00:15:17,699 --> 00:15:19,048 He confessed. 375 00:15:24,967 --> 00:15:26,751 Look who's here. 376 00:15:26,795 --> 00:15:28,579 We got our shooting credentials restored. 377 00:15:28,623 --> 00:15:30,103 Goodie! 378 00:15:34,368 --> 00:15:35,543 Hi, Leo. 379 00:15:37,414 --> 00:15:40,200 Leo, why did you send these letters to Karl 380 00:15:40,243 --> 00:15:41,766 if you didn't start the fire? 381 00:15:41,810 --> 00:15:44,160 Uh, he was hurt real bad, and I wanted him to feel better. 382 00:15:44,204 --> 00:15:46,510 You said that you felt sorry that he was hurt. 383 00:15:46,554 --> 00:15:47,381 You wrote that. 384 00:15:47,424 --> 00:15:48,773 I-It was really sad 385 00:15:48,817 --> 00:15:51,298 what happened to him and the other guy. 386 00:15:51,341 --> 00:15:53,343 When something sad happens, you're supposed to say "Sorry." 387 00:15:53,387 --> 00:15:54,997 Leo, did you start the fire? 388 00:15:55,041 --> 00:15:56,520 No! I told you. 389 00:15:56,564 --> 00:15:58,348 Then why did you say you didn't mean for him to get hurt? 390 00:15:58,392 --> 00:15:59,828 I told you-- 391 00:15:59,871 --> 00:16:01,961 because I felt bad for him that he was in the hospital. 392 00:16:02,004 --> 00:16:04,093 Leo, do you know the difference between right and wrong? 393 00:16:05,747 --> 00:16:07,096 Did you know how to turn on the stove? 394 00:16:07,140 --> 00:16:09,185 My dad taught me never to play with the stove. 395 00:16:09,229 --> 00:16:10,273 Someone could get hurt. 396 00:16:10,317 --> 00:16:11,622 Someone didget hurt. 397 00:16:13,450 --> 00:16:16,366 Leo, do you swear you didn't start the fire? 398 00:16:22,068 --> 00:16:23,634 I pinkie-swear it. 399 00:16:34,776 --> 00:16:37,300 You uncovered a totally new point of origin 400 00:16:37,344 --> 00:16:38,867 for the fire at the restaurant kitchen. 401 00:16:38,910 --> 00:16:40,042 Is that right? 402 00:16:40,086 --> 00:16:41,304 Uh... yeah. 403 00:16:41,348 --> 00:16:43,306 It's pretty cool, you know, 404 00:16:43,350 --> 00:16:45,700 using science to uncover the truth. 405 00:16:47,354 --> 00:16:48,833 Where'd your interest in all this stem from? 406 00:16:48,877 --> 00:16:51,488 Oh, I got into forensics when... 407 00:16:51,532 --> 00:16:52,837 ...when I was locked up. 408 00:16:54,100 --> 00:16:55,666 Oh, right. 409 00:16:55,710 --> 00:16:58,321 You-- You were incarcerated-- uh, three years, Queensboro? 410 00:16:58,365 --> 00:17:01,977 Yeah. Yeah, grand-theft auto. 411 00:17:02,021 --> 00:17:04,153 But-- But, you know, my-- my cellmate, Rey, 412 00:17:04,197 --> 00:17:06,416 he put me onto the "Forensic Files," 413 00:17:06,460 --> 00:17:09,028 and there was only one TV on the block, 414 00:17:09,071 --> 00:17:11,508 so we kind of watched together every day. 415 00:17:11,552 --> 00:17:12,770 I-I got hooked. 416 00:17:12,814 --> 00:17:15,382 Guess Rey helped you find your purpose, huh? 417 00:17:16,557 --> 00:17:17,819 Yeah. 418 00:17:17,862 --> 00:17:19,647 I mean, without this, 419 00:17:19,690 --> 00:17:22,563 who knows where I'd be right now? 420 00:17:22,606 --> 00:17:25,522 He, um... 421 00:17:25,566 --> 00:17:27,046 pretty much saved my life. 422 00:17:53,333 --> 00:17:55,291 Damn. 423 00:18:08,783 --> 00:18:09,871 Damn. 424 00:18:23,189 --> 00:18:25,104 Damn. 425 00:18:38,073 --> 00:18:39,509 Did he ever get into trouble when you guys were growing up? 426 00:18:39,553 --> 00:18:40,597 No. Nothing serious. 427 00:18:40,641 --> 00:18:42,033 ...a couple of kids were... 428 00:18:42,077 --> 00:18:43,861 You know, kids can be jerks. 429 00:18:43,905 --> 00:18:46,081 ...got mad because we wouldn't let him in our tree house. 430 00:18:46,125 --> 00:18:47,082 Damn. 431 00:18:59,312 --> 00:19:00,269 You're gonna want to see this. 432 00:19:00,313 --> 00:19:01,705 Found this on Paul's computer. 433 00:19:01,749 --> 00:19:04,665 Uh, future reference-- consent to pull it out 434 00:19:04,708 --> 00:19:06,406 doesn't equal consent to stick it in. 435 00:19:06,449 --> 00:19:07,929 What were you doing on Paul's computer? 436 00:19:09,931 --> 00:19:11,846 Did he ever get into trouble when you guys were growing up? 437 00:19:11,889 --> 00:19:13,282 No. Nothing serious. 438 00:19:13,326 --> 00:19:15,241 Pushed a couple of kids for teasing him. 439 00:19:15,284 --> 00:19:16,807 You know, kids can be jerks. 440 00:19:16,851 --> 00:19:18,374 Once, Leo got mad 441 00:19:18,418 --> 00:19:20,463 'cause we wouldn't let him in our tree house. 442 00:19:20,507 --> 00:19:22,770 We didn't want him to fall and get hurt. 443 00:19:22,813 --> 00:19:25,251 He didn't understand. 444 00:19:25,294 --> 00:19:27,470 Later, after we left, he set the tree house on fire. 445 00:19:30,256 --> 00:19:32,127 That is a similar prior act. 446 00:19:32,171 --> 00:19:33,563 More like an identicalact. 447 00:19:33,607 --> 00:19:36,697 Leo has a history of starting fires when he's angry. 448 00:19:36,740 --> 00:19:38,786 Paul and Leo's brothers knew it all along. 449 00:19:50,276 --> 00:19:52,016 Leo setting fire to the tree house 450 00:19:52,060 --> 00:19:53,670 parallels him setting fire to the restaurant. 451 00:19:53,714 --> 00:19:55,324 It is beyond damaging, and you withheld it. 452 00:19:55,368 --> 00:19:56,804 That story would never be allowed in court. 453 00:19:56,847 --> 00:19:58,414 I don't care about the court. I care about the truth-- 454 00:19:58,458 --> 00:20:00,242 clearly, an alien concept to you. 455 00:20:00,286 --> 00:20:02,940 Hayes, I think it's--He buried footage that makes Leo look guilty-- 456 00:20:02,984 --> 00:20:04,028 hid it from us. 457 00:20:04,072 --> 00:20:05,247 Your employee stole footage from me 458 00:20:05,291 --> 00:20:06,292 worth thousands of dollars. 459 00:20:06,335 --> 00:20:07,510 That's felony theft. 460 00:20:07,554 --> 00:20:08,772 Who made that valuation-- your mother? 461 00:20:08,816 --> 00:20:09,860 Calm down. 462 00:20:09,904 --> 00:20:11,688 Okay, look, I'm trying to help Leo 463 00:20:11,732 --> 00:20:13,951 and, in the process, hundreds of others like him, 464 00:20:13,995 --> 00:20:15,605 who are being railroaded by the system 465 00:20:15,649 --> 00:20:17,868 because they lack the wherewithal to protect themselves. 466 00:20:17,912 --> 00:20:19,305 And if you have to lie to do it... 467 00:20:19,348 --> 00:20:21,045 People with intellectual disabilities 468 00:20:21,089 --> 00:20:23,570 make up nearly 3% of the general population, 469 00:20:23,613 --> 00:20:26,007 but it's almost triple that in the prison population. 470 00:20:26,050 --> 00:20:27,574 That's not a lie. That is a fact! 471 00:20:27,617 --> 00:20:30,272 One that you're up-front with because it supports your agenda. 472 00:20:30,316 --> 00:20:31,534 You agree with his agenda. 473 00:20:31,578 --> 00:20:33,057 Noble intentions don't make it okay 474 00:20:33,101 --> 00:20:34,972 to withhold information or obscure the truth. 475 00:20:35,016 --> 00:20:36,191 My job as a filmmaker 476 00:20:36,235 --> 00:20:37,975 is to tell Leo's story in an impactful way. 477 00:20:38,019 --> 00:20:39,281 Giving you a free pass 478 00:20:39,325 --> 00:20:41,457 to manipulate the audience, Leo, his family-- 479 00:20:41,501 --> 00:20:44,286 anything to ensure that your movie gets a happy ending 480 00:20:44,330 --> 00:20:45,331 so someone buys it. 481 00:20:45,374 --> 00:20:47,202 That is all you care about, 482 00:20:47,246 --> 00:20:49,509 because underneath the empathy for people like Leo, 483 00:20:49,552 --> 00:20:50,510 you're a whore. 484 00:20:50,553 --> 00:20:52,251 - And I'm done. - Hayes. 485 00:20:52,294 --> 00:20:54,688 Ichoose the cases, remember? I'm unchoosing this one. 486 00:20:54,731 --> 00:20:56,080 You can't do that. We had an agreement. 487 00:20:56,124 --> 00:20:57,908 Then you'rea whore, too. 488 00:20:57,952 --> 00:20:59,649 Get that out of my face! 489 00:21:05,089 --> 00:21:06,656 Vince spends his whole life 490 00:21:06,700 --> 00:21:09,050 taking care of and protecting Leo 491 00:21:09,093 --> 00:21:10,921 and then throws him under the bus on-camera? 492 00:21:10,965 --> 00:21:12,793 Why? Maybe it was an innocent slip. 493 00:21:12,836 --> 00:21:14,055 No such thing. 494 00:21:14,098 --> 00:21:14,925 Where's Paul? 495 00:21:14,969 --> 00:21:16,275 Out buying a new camera. 496 00:21:16,318 --> 00:21:18,799 What if Vince wanted to make sure 497 00:21:18,842 --> 00:21:20,104 that Leo wasn't exonerated, 498 00:21:20,148 --> 00:21:21,802 make sure the truth wouldn't come out? 499 00:21:21,845 --> 00:21:23,586 You think Vince lit the fire, let Leo take the fall? 500 00:21:23,630 --> 00:21:25,414 The insurance payout did have a lot of zeros after it. 501 00:21:25,458 --> 00:21:26,676 I found something odd. 502 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,591 Vince didn't deposit his insurance payout. 503 00:21:28,635 --> 00:21:30,593 He signed it over to Powell and Associates. 504 00:21:30,637 --> 00:21:32,291 I called to ask about the transaction, 505 00:21:32,334 --> 00:21:33,770 but as soon as I said I was CIU-- 506 00:21:33,814 --> 00:21:34,728 They hung up on you? 507 00:21:34,771 --> 00:21:36,904 How'd you know? 508 00:21:36,947 --> 00:21:38,340 Their business is money laundering. 509 00:21:38,384 --> 00:21:40,037 They hire Ivy League attorneys 510 00:21:40,081 --> 00:21:43,127 to hide money for super-rich corporate titans. 511 00:21:43,171 --> 00:21:44,607 They recruited heavily from my law school. 512 00:21:44,651 --> 00:21:46,870 Vince was definitely not super-rich. 513 00:21:46,914 --> 00:21:49,046 I'll take care of Powell. You keep digging on Vince. 514 00:21:49,090 --> 00:21:51,875 Getting right back on your horse. 515 00:21:51,919 --> 00:21:53,137 Good for you! 516 00:21:53,181 --> 00:21:54,313 Where are you going? 517 00:21:54,356 --> 00:21:56,706 To the bathroom. I'll be right back. 518 00:21:56,750 --> 00:21:58,752 Oh, actually, I might be a while. 519 00:21:58,795 --> 00:21:59,927 I'm big on whole grains. 520 00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:04,148 Okay. 521 00:22:04,192 --> 00:22:07,587 So, what kind of cop are you? 522 00:22:07,630 --> 00:22:09,240 Second-generation. 523 00:22:09,284 --> 00:22:11,330 No complaints, no problems. 524 00:22:11,373 --> 00:22:12,374 I'm proud of my time. 525 00:22:12,418 --> 00:22:14,420 You liked being a cop. Why retire? 526 00:22:14,463 --> 00:22:16,639 I was ready to move on. 527 00:22:16,683 --> 00:22:18,554 You okay? 528 00:22:18,598 --> 00:22:20,077 Yeah. I just-- I tweaked my back last week. 529 00:22:20,121 --> 00:22:22,166 Did that, uh, happen during the George Stayner incident? 530 00:22:24,212 --> 00:22:27,607 You remember the George Stayner incident, right? 531 00:22:30,436 --> 00:22:32,525 He killed himself in front of me, so yeah, I remember. 532 00:22:32,568 --> 00:22:34,614 Sam suggested you might have been able 533 00:22:34,657 --> 00:22:36,616 to handle that situation better-- 534 00:22:36,659 --> 00:22:39,053 maybe if you'd been less aggressive. 535 00:22:39,096 --> 00:22:40,271 Sam said that? 536 00:22:40,315 --> 00:22:41,795 Do you feel responsible for what happened? 537 00:22:43,797 --> 00:22:45,799 A man died that day. 538 00:22:45,842 --> 00:22:47,104 I'm not interested 539 00:22:47,148 --> 00:22:51,370 in helping you make that into entertainment. 540 00:23:02,076 --> 00:23:04,383 Ms. Morrison. Glen Powell. 541 00:23:04,426 --> 00:23:06,515 I know an associate of yours called the office. 542 00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:09,823 However, we're bound by client-privacy regulations. 543 00:23:09,866 --> 00:23:12,086 I'm here on a personal matter. 544 00:23:13,566 --> 00:23:15,176 My co-op board 545 00:23:15,219 --> 00:23:19,441 wants to restructure the shareholder contract 546 00:23:19,485 --> 00:23:25,795 to safeguard against owners renting to the Airbnb types. 547 00:23:34,761 --> 00:23:38,547 Do you know how long it would take you 548 00:23:38,591 --> 00:23:42,290 to draft us a new contract? 549 00:23:49,950 --> 00:23:53,519 About a week... tops. 550 00:24:01,265 --> 00:24:02,179 You can't take that! 551 00:24:02,223 --> 00:24:03,746 Sure I can. 552 00:24:03,790 --> 00:24:07,271 Just like I'm sure I can have the Feds crawling up your ass 553 00:24:07,315 --> 00:24:08,795 in less than 10 minutes. 554 00:24:08,838 --> 00:24:12,059 Money laundering is like catnip to the Justice Department. 555 00:24:12,102 --> 00:24:13,930 Oryou can tell me 556 00:24:13,974 --> 00:24:16,019 where Vince Scarlata was stashing his money. 557 00:24:26,247 --> 00:24:28,858 Vince had the funds transferred to Ace Den. 558 00:24:28,902 --> 00:24:31,861 It's a high-roller casino-- very hush-hush. 559 00:24:31,905 --> 00:24:33,080 Vince was a gambler? 560 00:24:33,123 --> 00:24:36,387 Not a very good one. He was in pretty deep. 561 00:24:36,431 --> 00:24:39,129 That insurance payout saved his life. 562 00:24:49,923 --> 00:24:51,794 You didn't tell us the whole story, Mr. Scarlata. 563 00:24:51,838 --> 00:24:53,535 What story's that? 564 00:24:53,579 --> 00:24:55,494 We know about your secret. 565 00:24:55,537 --> 00:24:58,584 I assume you're talking about his gambling debt. 566 00:24:59,759 --> 00:25:01,456 That hasn't been a secret for a long time. 567 00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:03,327 That still doesn't mean you didn't burn the restaurant down. 568 00:25:03,371 --> 00:25:05,547 Wait. You think Iset the fire? 569 00:25:05,591 --> 00:25:08,332 That restaurant was my father's legacy, 570 00:25:08,376 --> 00:25:09,377 his life's work. 571 00:25:09,420 --> 00:25:11,074 I could never burn that place down. 572 00:25:11,118 --> 00:25:12,598 The insurance payout's a pretty big motive. 573 00:25:12,641 --> 00:25:15,644 You think I'd let my brother rot in prison for money? 574 00:25:15,688 --> 00:25:17,646 When our parents died, 575 00:25:17,690 --> 00:25:20,301 I swore I would always protect him. 576 00:25:20,344 --> 00:25:22,999 So, where were you the night the restaurant caught fire? 577 00:25:23,043 --> 00:25:24,566 The restaurant closes at 10:00 every night, 578 00:25:24,610 --> 00:25:26,786 so he was home around 11:30. 579 00:25:26,829 --> 00:25:27,874 And he was asleep beside me 580 00:25:27,917 --> 00:25:29,310 when we got the call about the fire. 581 00:25:29,353 --> 00:25:30,180 Are we done here? 582 00:25:30,224 --> 00:25:31,181 Yeah. 583 00:25:31,225 --> 00:25:33,227 That's enough. 584 00:25:35,795 --> 00:25:37,710 You want to check his alibi at the building, or should I? 585 00:25:37,753 --> 00:25:38,928 I don't know. Can you trust me? 586 00:25:38,972 --> 00:25:40,626 What's that supposed to mean? 587 00:25:40,669 --> 00:25:42,845 You never know how I'm gonna react to a situation. 588 00:25:42,889 --> 00:25:45,108 I might come across too aggressive. 589 00:25:48,503 --> 00:25:49,678 I didn't mean it like that. 590 00:25:49,722 --> 00:25:50,636 How did you mean it? 591 00:25:52,376 --> 00:25:53,508 That's exactly what they want. 592 00:25:53,552 --> 00:25:56,511 I don't give a damn who sees. 593 00:25:56,555 --> 00:25:59,035 You have no idea what that situation was like for me. 594 00:25:59,079 --> 00:26:00,210 I was right there. 595 00:26:00,254 --> 00:26:03,387 George had a gun 2 feet from my face. 596 00:26:03,431 --> 00:26:05,476 I didn't know if he was gonna shoot meor shoot himself. 597 00:26:07,043 --> 00:26:09,219 You're right. 598 00:26:09,263 --> 00:26:10,481 I'm sorry. 599 00:26:11,700 --> 00:26:13,006 I don't need your apology, 600 00:26:13,049 --> 00:26:14,616 and I sure as hell don't need your pity. 601 00:26:35,768 --> 00:26:37,552 Oh! Hold the door! 602 00:26:37,596 --> 00:26:39,641 Hey. Vince's alibi checked out. 603 00:26:39,685 --> 00:26:41,643 His doorman confirmed he was at home when the fire started. 604 00:26:41,687 --> 00:26:43,427 Makes Leo our prime suspect again. 605 00:26:43,471 --> 00:26:45,473 Unless Vince set some kind of delaying device 606 00:26:45,516 --> 00:26:46,735 to start the fire later. 607 00:26:46,779 --> 00:26:47,997 Sam, you're blocking Frankie. Could you-- 608 00:26:48,041 --> 00:26:49,259 - Does that help? - Nope. 609 00:26:49,303 --> 00:26:50,391 Good. 610 00:26:51,697 --> 00:26:54,700 Oops. I-- I dropped my badge. 611 00:26:59,139 --> 00:27:00,357 They annoy me. 612 00:27:00,401 --> 00:27:02,098 - You can't avoid them forever. - Don't bet on it. 613 00:27:02,142 --> 00:27:03,622 When I was 16, the Secret Service 614 00:27:03,665 --> 00:27:05,624 changed my code name from "Halo" to "Houdini." 615 00:27:05,667 --> 00:27:06,929 I'm guessing "Halo" was ironic? 616 00:27:06,973 --> 00:27:08,322 Delayed-ignition devices-- go. 617 00:27:08,365 --> 00:27:09,932 There was nothing in the original reports that-- 618 00:27:09,976 --> 00:27:11,760 Forget about reports. Go back to the physical evidence. 619 00:27:11,804 --> 00:27:13,849 I would if I could. They were destroyed in-- 620 00:27:13,893 --> 00:27:15,503 You ready for this?-- 621 00:27:15,546 --> 00:27:17,940 a fire at the NYPD evidence warehouse. 622 00:27:17,984 --> 00:27:20,029 The restaurant goes up in flames, as does our case. 623 00:27:20,073 --> 00:27:21,291 Maybe not. 624 00:27:21,335 --> 00:27:22,336 What about Karl? 625 00:27:22,379 --> 00:27:24,120 I mean, he was burned in the fire, 626 00:27:24,164 --> 00:27:25,644 which means there'd be trace amounts 627 00:27:25,687 --> 00:27:28,472 of any chemicals consumed in that fire on his skin. 628 00:27:28,516 --> 00:27:31,954 Burn units always take samples in a suspected-arson case-- 629 00:27:31,998 --> 00:27:33,564 blood, hair, skin. 630 00:27:33,608 --> 00:27:35,305 I'm sure they ran panels on him. 631 00:27:35,349 --> 00:27:37,307 Get his records-- anything - you can get your hands on. - Mm-hmm. 632 00:27:37,351 --> 00:27:38,744 If we learn more about the fire, 633 00:27:38,787 --> 00:27:40,267 perhaps it will help us figure out who started it. 634 00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:41,268 All right. 635 00:27:43,487 --> 00:27:44,663 Thank you. 636 00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:48,797 Is Hayes Morrison easy to work with? 637 00:27:48,841 --> 00:27:50,581 Easy? No. 638 00:27:50,625 --> 00:27:51,713 Great? Yes. 639 00:27:51,757 --> 00:27:54,498 She's a wild card, a force of nature-- 640 00:27:54,542 --> 00:27:56,892 exactly what the CIU needs. 641 00:27:56,936 --> 00:27:59,503 This unit is devoted to making sure 642 00:27:59,547 --> 00:28:01,157 there really is justice for all. 643 00:28:01,201 --> 00:28:02,811 And that includes people with diminished capacity, like Leo? 644 00:28:02,855 --> 00:28:04,204 For everyone. 645 00:28:04,247 --> 00:28:06,728 Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. 646 00:28:06,772 --> 00:28:08,512 Sounds like the sound bite of a man running for office 647 00:28:08,556 --> 00:28:09,731 in the near future. 648 00:28:09,775 --> 00:28:11,341 No comment. 649 00:28:11,385 --> 00:28:13,561 Any chance the U.S. Attorney's ongoing investigation of you 650 00:28:13,604 --> 00:28:14,693 might derail those plans? 651 00:28:16,346 --> 00:28:18,044 Absolutely not. 652 00:28:18,087 --> 00:28:20,176 Because they're not going to find anything. 653 00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:24,441 I re-ran chem panels on Karl's blood and tissue samples-- 654 00:28:24,485 --> 00:28:26,269 found trace amounts of triethanolamine. 655 00:28:26,313 --> 00:28:27,488 What does that mean? 656 00:28:27,531 --> 00:28:29,359 Triethanolamine is a common emulsifier. 657 00:28:29,403 --> 00:28:30,317 It's very stable. 658 00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:31,710 That's why it's in everything 659 00:28:31,753 --> 00:28:33,712 from dishwashing detergent to herbicide. 660 00:28:33,755 --> 00:28:36,715 I took separate tubes and mixed vegetable oil 661 00:28:36,758 --> 00:28:38,151 with every item found in the restaurant 662 00:28:38,194 --> 00:28:39,718 that contained triethanolamine. 663 00:28:39,761 --> 00:28:42,024 In hopes that one of them will cause a chemical reaction? 664 00:28:42,068 --> 00:28:42,938 Exactly. 665 00:28:43,939 --> 00:28:45,506 How... long has it been? 666 00:28:45,549 --> 00:28:47,377 Two hours. 667 00:28:47,421 --> 00:28:49,466 How long do we wait? 668 00:28:49,510 --> 00:28:50,990 Uh... 669 00:28:54,907 --> 00:28:56,038 What was in that test tube? 670 00:28:56,082 --> 00:28:57,170 Kitty litter. 671 00:28:58,171 --> 00:28:59,738 Meatball lived in the restaurant. 672 00:29:01,087 --> 00:29:02,566 Vince could have dumped the kitty litter 673 00:29:02,610 --> 00:29:04,003 into the oil bin, gone home, 674 00:29:04,046 --> 00:29:06,396 and the fire would've started long after he was gone. 675 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,878 Only, he was home by 11:30. 676 00:29:09,922 --> 00:29:13,099 That mixture would've triggered combustion inside of two hours. 677 00:29:13,142 --> 00:29:15,884 The fire didn't start till 3:00 A.M. 678 00:29:15,928 --> 00:29:17,233 Vince's alibi still stands. 679 00:29:17,277 --> 00:29:19,758 According to the restaurant's POS system, 680 00:29:19,801 --> 00:29:22,412 another passcode logged off around 1:00 A.M. 681 00:29:22,456 --> 00:29:23,239 Leo? 682 00:29:23,283 --> 00:29:25,067 No-- Anthony Scarlata. 683 00:29:25,111 --> 00:29:26,939 Why would Anthony set up his brother? 684 00:29:26,982 --> 00:29:28,767 Framing Leo would've paved the way 685 00:29:28,810 --> 00:29:30,681 for him to franchise the restaurant. 686 00:29:30,725 --> 00:29:31,770 He made a fortune. 687 00:29:33,075 --> 00:29:34,555 Sounds like motive to me. 688 00:29:49,962 --> 00:29:51,093 About the other day-- 689 00:29:51,137 --> 00:29:52,703 We're good. 690 00:29:52,747 --> 00:29:53,704 I'm sorry. 691 00:29:53,748 --> 00:29:55,184 Me too. 692 00:30:03,671 --> 00:30:05,542 We know you used kitty litter and vegetable oil 693 00:30:05,586 --> 00:30:06,674 to start the fire. 694 00:30:06,717 --> 00:30:08,632 How would that even work? 695 00:30:08,676 --> 00:30:10,286 It's easy enough to find on the Internet. 696 00:30:10,330 --> 00:30:12,419 You bought kitty litter earlier the week of the fire. 697 00:30:12,462 --> 00:30:13,812 We found the charge on your credit card. 698 00:30:13,855 --> 00:30:16,510 I bought it for Leo-- for his cat, Meatball. 699 00:30:16,553 --> 00:30:18,033 You had a cat at the restaurant? 700 00:30:18,077 --> 00:30:20,296 I wanted to get rid of it, but Leo loved the damn cat. 701 00:30:20,340 --> 00:30:21,820 Wait. Was it Leo's job to empty the cat litter? 702 00:30:21,863 --> 00:30:22,864 Yeah. 703 00:30:26,955 --> 00:30:28,000 Oh, my God. 704 00:30:28,043 --> 00:30:29,653 He... 705 00:30:29,697 --> 00:30:31,133 He dumped it in the wrong bin. 706 00:30:31,177 --> 00:30:33,309 He-- He must have made a mistake. 707 00:30:37,052 --> 00:30:38,358 It was an accident. 708 00:30:42,144 --> 00:30:44,059 So, I understand you went to law school, 709 00:30:44,103 --> 00:30:46,018 but you're not a lawyer. 710 00:30:47,193 --> 00:30:48,498 No. 711 00:30:48,542 --> 00:30:49,543 Why is that? 712 00:30:49,586 --> 00:30:51,588 Seems like the logical next step. 713 00:30:51,632 --> 00:30:53,373 What does this have to do with Leo's case? 714 00:30:53,416 --> 00:30:55,288 I'm just trying to get a better understanding 715 00:30:55,331 --> 00:30:57,681 of the people that are involved in this investigation. 716 00:30:57,725 --> 00:31:00,380 You have to pass the bar exam to be a lawyer. 717 00:31:00,423 --> 00:31:02,861 Well, it's a difficult exam. Lots of great students-- 718 00:31:02,904 --> 00:31:05,689 I was an editor on Law Review and graduated summa cum laude. 719 00:31:05,733 --> 00:31:08,127 There's nothing - to be ashamed of. - I'm not ashamed. 720 00:31:10,956 --> 00:31:12,522 Not of that. 721 00:31:13,567 --> 00:31:15,874 Tess, what areyou ashamed of? 722 00:31:25,753 --> 00:31:28,147 I went to law school planning to be a prosecutor. 723 00:31:28,190 --> 00:31:31,150 I wanted to put bad guys away. 724 00:31:31,193 --> 00:31:32,499 Around the time of the bar exam, 725 00:31:32,542 --> 00:31:34,196 one of those bad guys was released-- 726 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,981 exonerated by DNA. 727 00:31:39,419 --> 00:31:42,204 It was a surprise to me, because... 728 00:31:43,989 --> 00:31:46,905 ...it was mytestimony that had put him in prison. 729 00:31:47,993 --> 00:31:50,125 When I sat down to take the bar exam, 730 00:31:50,169 --> 00:31:53,607 all I could see was his face... 731 00:31:55,739 --> 00:32:00,353 ...an innocent man whose life I had..ruined. 732 00:32:03,443 --> 00:32:05,401 I didn't answer a single question. 733 00:32:05,445 --> 00:32:07,969 So instead of putting bad guys away, you do this? 734 00:32:09,536 --> 00:32:10,798 Yes. 735 00:32:15,803 --> 00:32:17,239 I've never told anyone that before. 736 00:32:17,283 --> 00:32:18,501 I... 737 00:32:20,112 --> 00:32:22,070 I guess I didn't realize that I needed to. 738 00:32:22,114 --> 00:32:25,595 Sometimes, stories that have tragic beginnings 739 00:32:25,639 --> 00:32:27,423 have happy endings. 740 00:32:29,382 --> 00:32:30,774 I have good news. 741 00:32:30,818 --> 00:32:33,038 We've been able to prove the fire was an accident. 742 00:32:33,081 --> 00:32:34,561 So I can go home now? 743 00:32:34,604 --> 00:32:35,388 Yes. 744 00:32:35,431 --> 00:32:36,519 Not yet. 745 00:32:36,563 --> 00:32:38,347 First, you need to make a statement 746 00:32:38,391 --> 00:32:39,696 admitting your mistake. 747 00:32:39,740 --> 00:32:41,437 Then the D.A. will file a motion 748 00:32:41,481 --> 00:32:42,786 that reduces your sentence. 749 00:32:42,830 --> 00:32:44,266 - My-- My-- My mistake? - That the fire started 750 00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:46,790 because you threw the kitty litter in the wrong trash bin. 751 00:32:46,834 --> 00:32:48,227 No! I didn't do that. 752 00:32:48,270 --> 00:32:49,837 It's okay, Leo. It was right beside all the other bins. 753 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:50,969 It could've happened to anyone. 754 00:32:51,012 --> 00:32:52,448 No, it didn't happen! 755 00:32:52,492 --> 00:32:55,277 I-I know I'm not smart, but I-I know how to listen. 756 00:32:55,321 --> 00:32:56,800 I follow the rules. 757 00:32:56,844 --> 00:32:59,020 But you did clean the cat's litter box that night, right? 758 00:32:59,064 --> 00:33:00,587 Yes, but I didn't do anything wrong. 759 00:33:00,630 --> 00:33:02,110 You have to say it, or you can't go home. 760 00:33:02,154 --> 00:33:04,286 I-I did-- I didn't do anything wrong! 761 00:33:04,330 --> 00:33:06,854 I-- Anthony said if I didn't take care of Meatball 762 00:33:06,897 --> 00:33:08,812 that he'd give him away, so I did it right-- 763 00:33:08,856 --> 00:33:09,813 all the time! 764 00:33:09,857 --> 00:33:11,206 Leo-- All the time! 765 00:33:11,250 --> 00:33:13,295 Leo, if you don't admit this mistake, 766 00:33:13,339 --> 00:33:15,036 we can't legally argue with a judge 767 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,820 that you didn't intentionally start the fire. 768 00:33:25,655 --> 00:33:28,136 I-I followed the rules. 769 00:33:28,180 --> 00:33:29,485 I'm not gonna say I didn't. 770 00:34:05,217 --> 00:34:06,392 I took the stairs. 771 00:34:06,435 --> 00:34:08,002 You okay? Never better. 772 00:34:08,046 --> 00:34:10,396 For what it's worth, thank you. 773 00:34:10,439 --> 00:34:12,441 You did everything humanly possible for Leo. 774 00:34:12,485 --> 00:34:14,269 Except get him out of prison. 775 00:34:14,313 --> 00:34:15,792 Wasn't your fault. 776 00:34:15,836 --> 00:34:17,881 Who cares whose fault it is? Doesn't make it suck any less. 777 00:34:17,925 --> 00:34:20,058 You really care about Leo, don't you? 778 00:34:20,101 --> 00:34:21,363 He doesn't belong in prison. 779 00:34:21,407 --> 00:34:24,192 Well, he won't budge off what he thinks is right. 780 00:34:24,236 --> 00:34:25,628 Almost reminds me of you. 781 00:34:30,024 --> 00:34:32,940 I wish I had halfhis heart. 782 00:34:32,983 --> 00:34:34,333 D-- 783 00:35:14,764 --> 00:35:16,201 Do you everstop?! 784 00:35:41,008 --> 00:35:43,837 I already told you-- I didn't make a mistake. 785 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,055 I'm not changing my mind. 786 00:35:45,099 --> 00:35:47,275 Do you know... 787 00:35:47,319 --> 00:35:48,929 what this is? 788 00:35:48,972 --> 00:35:50,452 Oh, it's my chore chart from the restaurant. 789 00:35:50,496 --> 00:35:52,193 From the night of the fire. 790 00:35:52,237 --> 00:35:54,543 One of the rules was that you do everything on this chart, right? 791 00:35:54,587 --> 00:35:56,023 Right. 792 00:35:56,066 --> 00:35:58,112 And that you do them exactly as you were told, right? 793 00:35:58,156 --> 00:35:59,809 Yes. I always follow the rules. 794 00:35:59,853 --> 00:36:00,897 What about thisone? 795 00:36:02,986 --> 00:36:04,988 Bin "B" was the oil bin. 796 00:36:05,032 --> 00:36:06,686 You put the kitty litter in here. 797 00:36:08,557 --> 00:36:09,863 I don't understand. 798 00:36:09,906 --> 00:36:11,865 I-I was following the rules. 799 00:36:13,388 --> 00:36:16,478 We got these charts from the computer at the restaurant 800 00:36:16,522 --> 00:36:18,001 earlier in the week of the fire. 801 00:36:18,045 --> 00:36:20,917 Where does it say for you to throw away the kitty litter? 802 00:36:32,581 --> 00:36:33,974 Bin "A." 803 00:36:34,017 --> 00:36:36,237 But the night of the fire was different. 804 00:36:39,936 --> 00:36:41,503 I was following the rules. 805 00:36:41,547 --> 00:36:43,201 It's not your fault. 806 00:36:48,336 --> 00:36:50,599 Leo, who used to make up the chore charts? 807 00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:54,299 That-- That was Rita's job. 808 00:36:54,342 --> 00:36:55,343 Oh. 809 00:36:57,345 --> 00:36:58,651 Did shemake a mistake, too? 810 00:37:01,741 --> 00:37:04,178 The fire wasn't an accident. 811 00:37:04,222 --> 00:37:07,050 You told Leo to put kitty litter in the oil bin. 812 00:37:07,094 --> 00:37:08,226 You made the chore chart. 813 00:37:08,269 --> 00:37:09,662 You knew he'd follow it, no matter what. 814 00:37:09,705 --> 00:37:11,359 No. 815 00:37:11,403 --> 00:37:12,534 Rita loves Leo. 816 00:37:12,578 --> 00:37:14,319 She'd never use him like that. 817 00:37:14,362 --> 00:37:16,843 You knew if he put the kitty litter in the oil bin, 818 00:37:16,886 --> 00:37:18,714 the restaurant would go up in flames. 819 00:37:18,758 --> 00:37:21,064 Just tell her you didn't do it. 820 00:37:22,370 --> 00:37:23,632 Do it. 821 00:37:25,199 --> 00:37:27,288 Rita, tell her you didn't do it. 822 00:37:30,900 --> 00:37:34,730 I had no idea that somebody was gonna die... 823 00:37:34,774 --> 00:37:36,689 or get hurt. 824 00:37:38,386 --> 00:37:40,214 I never thought that Leo'd get caught. 825 00:37:42,129 --> 00:37:45,698 That restaurant was killing you. 826 00:37:45,741 --> 00:37:47,526 You were neverhome. 827 00:37:47,569 --> 00:37:49,658 You were up to your eyeballs in debt. 828 00:37:49,702 --> 00:37:51,399 It always came first. 829 00:37:51,443 --> 00:37:54,272 I hated what that place was doing to us. 830 00:37:54,315 --> 00:37:59,842 You let Leo rot in prison for 15 years? 831 00:37:59,886 --> 00:38:01,017 Vince, please-- 832 00:38:01,061 --> 00:38:02,105 No! 833 00:38:03,933 --> 00:38:05,761 NYPD is downstairs to take you in. 834 00:38:09,548 --> 00:38:11,289 Do whatever you want. 835 00:38:12,768 --> 00:38:13,595 I'm done. 836 00:38:15,641 --> 00:38:20,298 ♪ Ohh, oh 837 00:38:20,341 --> 00:38:23,083 ♪ What a release 838 00:38:26,391 --> 00:38:30,264 ♪ And I feel 839 00:38:31,657 --> 00:38:33,789 ♪ Yellow becoming me 840 00:38:36,966 --> 00:38:38,925 ♪ Oh-oh 841 00:38:38,968 --> 00:38:41,144 ♪ Standing on this wire 842 00:38:41,188 --> 00:38:42,972 ♪ Makes me realize 843 00:38:43,016 --> 00:38:47,890 ♪ I am alive 844 00:38:49,805 --> 00:38:55,637 ♪ And I won't 845 00:38:55,681 --> 00:38:58,031 ♪ Settle 846 00:39:02,122 --> 00:39:05,168 ♪ Move on and Earth 847 00:39:05,212 --> 00:39:08,346 ♪ Now that I've found 848 00:39:08,389 --> 00:39:10,435 Leo. 849 00:39:10,478 --> 00:39:13,525 I am so sorry for-- for everything. 850 00:39:13,568 --> 00:39:15,353 It's okay, Vince. You didn't do anything wrong. 851 00:39:16,484 --> 00:39:17,964 No, he didn't. 852 00:39:21,402 --> 00:39:23,665 I love you. 853 00:39:24,797 --> 00:39:26,276 Both of you. 854 00:39:27,321 --> 00:39:31,847 ♪ And I still 855 00:39:31,891 --> 00:39:35,111 ♪ The better ones I need 856 00:39:38,158 --> 00:39:39,681 ♪ Oh-oh 857 00:39:39,725 --> 00:39:41,857 ♪ Standing on this wire 858 00:39:41,901 --> 00:39:43,729 ♪ Makes me realize 859 00:39:43,772 --> 00:39:48,211 ♪ I am alive 860 00:39:50,562 --> 00:39:53,216 ♪ And I won't 861 00:39:53,260 --> 00:39:54,609 Things got a little heated 862 00:39:54,653 --> 00:39:55,523 between you and Hayes earlier, huh? 863 00:39:55,567 --> 00:39:56,568 Par for the course. 864 00:39:56,611 --> 00:39:57,830 She called you a whore. 865 00:39:57,873 --> 00:39:59,266 That, she did. 866 00:39:59,309 --> 00:40:01,573 Look, the thing about Hayes Morrison-- 867 00:40:01,616 --> 00:40:03,009 well, there's noone thing. 868 00:40:03,052 --> 00:40:08,536 She's stubborn, reactionary, fearless-- 869 00:40:08,580 --> 00:40:11,409 at least, about the things most of us are afraid of-- 870 00:40:11,452 --> 00:40:14,324 and brilliant. 871 00:40:14,368 --> 00:40:17,153 I've never met anyone else like her-- probably never will. 872 00:40:17,197 --> 00:40:18,546 And that has nothing to do 873 00:40:18,590 --> 00:40:20,156 with her being a former First Daughter. 874 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,421 ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh